Sent: Mon 11/21/2005 11:33 AMFrom: LSSubject: Groany MondayGood morning Sunshine :D
I know you are not feeling too sunshiney but hey be glad, it's the only day of your week!! That has to count for something -- I have 3 more than you plus a LOVELY day at the parents house with 4 dogs and S. .. as much as I have to be grateful for, I just don't want to go over there for the whole day. It's going to be a tough day.
Anyway back to nice, light email LOL
Mr. Coffee's name is B. I don't even know his last name but he says he's 42 (I think he's lying, I think he's a bit older) and he lives in the Greenwood area of North Seattle, not so far away from me really. We met at a coffee shop kinda by his place (my idea cuz I knew where it was and I thought it would be a cute place) and had coffee then tea from 10AM to 1:30PM when I realized how late it was and that A. was going to KILL me !! B. is a psycho-dog lover like me and we must have gone on about dogs for half the time we were there :) It was nice, actually. He's got more personality than I got from the phone conversation or scant emails we've sent. He's also got 2 old kids, 21 & 19 (girl/boy) and he's very much a skiier and snow sports guy -- neither of which I'm particularly excited about. The kid thing, I dunno .. adult kids are almost like just friends anyway but still, they are his kids. I think he's pretty big on skiing and ski trips, and that won't be my thing at all although going to a ski lodge or condo could have some benefits I WOULD like ;-) .. Anyway, he was very normal with a nice easy smile and easy-going manner to him. I think he liked me but I didn't get the feeling he was entranced or anything, which honestly? I'm glad about. It would be interesting and oh-so-novel to meet a guy I got to be friends with first LOL ... man how does that work anyway?!?! LOL His son is in the Coast Guard and is up here for the week so we made tentative plans to talk on the phone and then get together for dinner next week after the kid leaves :) He's already shown the daughter my pictures and talked to her about me - I dunno how that went or if I passed but I guess I must have, he says they are pretty tight. I'm not dying for it, but I am looking forward to seeing him again.
G. called yesterday day too while I was gone and that was cool because I wasn't home and he got my voicemail (doin' the happy dance HA HA) .. he didn't call me all weekend, again, but not like I didn't figure that was coming after I got the vocal memo of all the crap he had planned for himself all weekend and, I thought, thru the holiday weekend as well. Last night he called me again at about 9 on my cell, and I was just driving home from doing eBay stuff at work with T-dog, so we talked some then. I had been home once to get T-dog and got the voicemail but I didn't say I knew that. He told me he had hoped we could get together yesterday for dinner or something (mind you, this comes AFTER he has already not gotten ahold of me! How easy it is to make plans for an event AFTER the fact LOL -- I didn't really believe him, Sunday nights he likes to go to the Met for early dinner and he hasn't taken me there since like week 2 or 3) but he said that he would have asked me if he'd been able to reach me. Now, mind you -- I didn't call him back but I did have my cell on all day and he could have called that but he didn't. So I figure it's all just games and I'm still going along with it. Whatever, you know? I was joking with E. (my friend at work) today, that as long as he pays for dinner I'll put out, no biggie. E. was laughing and was all "TMI, TMI" which made me laugh too. LOL Anyway, I am going to go visit him tonight after my meeting, so I should be there around 7:45 or 8:00 and we are going to have pizza for dinner. I assume the subject of fooling around will come up but I'm not sure I want to -- I just started my period today and I kinda think that will be too much for him to deal with since we are just friends now (heavy eye roll face). He leaves Wed afternoon for home thru Sunday evening and I didn't offer to pick him up at the airport when he told me. I got the feeling he was kinda giving me the opportunity to offer, because he was going into detail about it and how he would try to get a friend to drive him to the airport and then take a cab home from the airport .. but I just let him go on about it. Screw it, you know? I don't see any reason to do girlfriend things for someone who doesn't consider me his girlfriend. If he point-blank asked me, I probably would do it - but I know he won't ask.
Don't I sound hardened to it all? Man .. remember when I thought he was so perfectly awesomely wonderful? Too bad that had to go south. I really thought he was too good to be true (and again, there's your sign -- too good to be true usually is!!!)
Okay there's my update. I am going to train at lunch today and sort of looking forward to it but not that much :) .. it will get easier but right now all I can think about is how much it's gonna hurt tomorrow !!!
Sent: Mon 11/21/2005 1:26 PMFrom: LKKSubject: Re: Groany MondayLOL My groan was purely for your benefit. I mean, what would the world be coming to if I wasn't behaving predictably for a Monday morning? :-) The sun is shining and it's a good day if for no other reason than that. That I only have one day to work this week.... Well, that is truly a bonus.
I wish you shared my good fortune on the number of days worked this week -- particularly after your nose-to-the-grindstone week last week. Hopefully you'll stay busy again this week to make the time fly by. Just remember, even though I'm not working at work, I will truly be working on vacation. Having four nieces and two nephews will keep me busy for sure. It will be nice to see them all, despite my grumping over it. :-)
Will S. be coming to the family Thanksgiving? And you have to stay the whole day? Hmmmm. If you do see that woman, will you be sure to protect any stray bunnies that might wander into your parent's yard for me? I don't trust her nazi-like extermination mentality. I mean, they're just doing what bunnies do -- and the frolicking... Well, what would a game at lower Woodland be like without those bunnies in the outfield? ;-)
Hmmmm. I'll be interested to see how this B. thing plays out. How I see it, you'll go into this much calmer if you have a milder interest in him than a throbbing passion. You'll have a pleasant distraction from the G. game-playing (which I don't necessarily whole-heartedly think is game-playing on his part. I think it's something more like total obliviousness to the way he's coming across). From what you tell me, he hasn't had a whole lot of experience in the whole relationship department. He's not a playah, man-ho. You and I have had so much experience with those sort of dudes that when we come across guys who are sincere (sincerely clueless) we don't know what to do with them.
Your cake analogy is something that fits G.'s actions, that's for sure. But, again, he's oblivious to how his actions can be interpreted that way. I think that he sincerely likes you, enjoys spending time with you, and TRULY does not want to hurt you. He just doesn't know how to mesh those together.
It's not so much hardened that you sound, but cautious with yourself. You've been hurt and it takes a while to rebuild trust. I think that if you come back to this relationship with your full heart, you'll "see" a bit more of the moments you're together. I hope that it dials down the hopes and fantasies of what it "should" be, only because I want the best for you and I don't want you to be hurt by how G. or anyone else might not measure up to that perfect guy that you want and have such a clear picture of in your head. I think that G. is seeing you and what you want with clearer eyes. But it truly is up to you to keep him in check -- call him on stuff. For instance.
G: "I had hoped we might get together for dinner Sunday night. I called an left you a message on your home phone..."
LS: "I enjoy having dinner with you. It's a shame you didn't call my cell number when you couldn't reach me at home. It's easier to get a hold of me on my cell."
You acknowledge the pleasure of his company. Gently chastise him on his behavior. And retrain him on what he should do next time. Was that a lame example?
More than anything, LS, have fun! I know how much you would like to have someone special for Christmas. Believe me, I do. I've spent the last four holidays with just my dad to buy for. Now that's a hard guy to shop for. :-) This isn't an easy time of year to meet new people either -- at least that's what I've found. It's easier for them to disappear with "commitments." I think the keeping busy, living YOUR life (which is a pretty active, cool life if you ask me) is your best defense against the G. blunder-behavior. :-) I mean, it's very Pink Book of you not to be available every time he calls. You can be nice about it and say, "Wow, I would have really enjoyed doing that with you. I hope you ask me again in the future with more advanced notice...." That provides you with something honest to say (that you would like to spend time with him) and encourages him to be more on your time schedule (i.e. not so spur of the moment next time, dude, I'm a busy, fabulous woman with a fabulous life that won't stop just because you called.) ;-)
Geez, how easy is for me to say this?!?! lol Yeah, right!
How was your training session? I think it's so great that you're doing this. I don't know how you can work out at lunch and come back to the office. I would be drained and super sweaty. lol Although, I have to admit, the times I've done it, I feell like I wasn't even at work that morning. The work day just gets blown away by those feel-good endorphins. :-) All I can say is, You go girl! :-)
To answer your question from yesterday's message... No, I didn't ask him anything about the use of herbs. He did bring it up himself while we were having our pillow talk (this is when I asked him my questions). He was talking about starting some cardio. He brought up the "black lung" sensation he's been having from working in that old space at Boeing the last three weeks. Then he mentioned that it probably didn't help that he was smoking a couple times a week. I just let him talk, inserting a gentle question here or there. I've discovered that for a lot of the important/touchy issues, it's good to let him bring them up and talk them through (he's a think-out-loud sort of guy). You know what I'm talking about... very slyly interjecting suggestions or asking the right questions phrased with the "do you thinks" " have you noticed" into the conversation so that, at the end, he thinks everything was his idea. :-) Hearken back to that scene in "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" when the Greek mom was giving her daughter advice on how to handle her father. ;-)Yesterday was a breeze for me to get through. Not even one hiccup on the relationship front at all. No weird separation anxiety or anything. I have just a teensy weensy bit today, but I'm still doing pretty well. The only extreme anxiety I felt yesterday was when I watch last Thursday's episode of ER that I had TiVo'd. You know, when it's time for me to fly, I make a huge effort to avoid anything that relates to plane crashes or whatever. Well, for god's sake, that episode was about a freaking plane crash, where this plane breaks apart on take-off.
GAGH!
You know, it's amazing what a little bit of knowledge can do for a soul. And it doesn't hurt that the knowledge happened to be what I hoped it would be. :-)Now I just have to get through the wait for his e-mail to confirm whether he's picking me up from the airport on Saturday. You know me. I can't help but wait for that other shoe to drop.And that reminds me. KUDOES, BRAVO, RIGHT ON! I am so proud of you for not acknowledging that bit of lily-livered hinting the G-man was throwing your way. If he can't muster the guts to ask you directly, it's certainly not your job to interpret his ramblings or read his mind. It's not for you to volunteer. I mean, where are all these "friends" of his when he needs something done. I would think he's thrown enough money in tips and treats their way that they should be on his payroll by now. ;-) That was a HUGE thing you did, you pleaser you. What you did was please LS, who is a person deserving of some pleasing behavior.
Okay, I need to get back to my report-writing. Let me know how the gym went if you get the chance. Bye for now!
You Rock!
Sent: Mon 11/21/2005 2:32 PMFrom: LSSubject: Re: Groany MondayNo, YOU rock :D
That was a fun email to read! Thanks for putting the effort in when I know you gotta be slammed today. It didn't go unappreciated!!!
The gym was fun but ever-so-incredibly-painful .. my brain remembers being able to lift heavy and for some crazy reason it WILL if I load on heavier than beginner weight. Then about the 5th rep my muscles remember that they don't have it anymore and they just check OUT and I'm left holding the weight! Oopsies! It was strange, really. Almost like the nerves from my muscles to my brain aren't there or something. Dunno. Maybe I have nerve damage!!! :) I'll have to quit. (j/k!!)
I get a 2 hr lunch you know .. I work "technically" 7-5 so I can take the extra long lunch for workout time and then shower time. I have in the past come back without one and I really hate that used up, sweaty feeling and smell. Ick. I like that I'm female and we just don't seem to get that super gross smelling sweat guys get, but still. Plus I'm going over to G.'s tonight and won't have time to shower later so it was imperative today that I do that. Just in case, you know. LOL
I don't know that it's my place to tell you this so please don't tell anyone else, but I know S. would tell you himself if you asked him (I think he would, anyway) ... he and S. broke up. He apparently started the talk but the feeling was supposedly mutual. She is leaving by Jan 1st .. so she's still living at the house until then. Talk about uncomfortable .. good Lord. I would be psychotic if it were me and the ex was still living there, good break or not. All I can say is, I'm personally extremely happy not to have to spend one more holiday with her around. I just don't see it and never did. And I'm grateful as HELL there's a chance that he can meet someone else that I might actually ENJOY being around. This breakup happened in the last 2 weeks I think. Dad asked one day and S. told him about it - and then last Thurs when S. called me to check in about Dad's chemo he left it on my voicemail in a whirlwind statement with no details. I was going to turn around and email it to you but I felt that it was a little childish to turn his disappointment into a game on my part. If it were reversed or if it was someone I'd liked, I certainly wouldn't have felt that way. I just needed to give the situation a little more respect and not take it on as my drama. I like to do that, anyway. I didn't know if you'd talk to S. or not but I figured I'd at least give him a chance to tell you himself. I don't feel like I'm gossiping this time because you basically brought it up. I hope you don't feel somehow slighted that I didn't tell you before - it really wasn't my story to share with anyone, and you know him separate from me so I thought you might talk to him. Anyway, enough about that. I guess he's doing okay with it. I am quite sure we'll talk about it more on Thursday.
Okay I gotta get to work too. I am going to run out of here early again (you know me) and I'm thinking 4:00 but it might not be until 4:30. If I have mail to send I'll leave at 4 but so far the film to send out isn't ready yet. I'll be here for a bit if you wanna email some more stuff :)
Sent: Mon 11/21/2005 3:11 PMFrom: LKKSubject: Re: Groany MondayI will tell you whatever S. tells me on Thursday. I'm sure he will be totally politically correct about it. If there is one thing (and maybe just about one thing only) I totally respect to the core about my brother, he never speaks poorly about exes. Never. He may say less-than-flattering things but he's never done so without the explanations or the excuses to make it sound like there was a reason they were like that (I'm thinking of that one that was OUT THERE ...) anyway, I think it's very precious in him that he protects them that way. He won't let me say things and he won't let Dad either - he'll stick up for them, even after the break-up. To me, that's rare, and a charming sweet quality that totally reminds me of when we saw G. & his wife at that book signing. I wonder if the whole break-up will have to do with her drinking at all ... it really seemed like she was a heavy drinker and I always wondered if it bothered him. Especially at her birthday party -- good LORD she was louder than anyone in the damn restaurant.
Okay enough about HER! I'll let you know the shpeal when I know.
I will definitely try to email you stuff to your Yahoo account this week in case you get access to a computer. I will also have my cell and if you get panicky you can call me :) no sense feeling cut off from the world when you've got cell access!! :)
I do hope you have a good trip. Travel safe, think good thoughts on the plane and know that nothing bad is going to happen to you.
You're in a good place in your head and your heart so you definitely have much to come back safe TO. Just keep that in mind. I hear you about stressing, but you just have to think good stuff. It's the only way. I like to get a juicy mag or book too (easy to do with Nora Roberts, in case you're stuck) and my walkman and just pretend I'm somewhere else, waiting for the man I'm involved with. Try that ;)
Have a great Thanksgiving too if I don't talk to you before that, enjoy that sunshine and them loud screaming kids you love so much. I say to hell with Auntie Flow (I have never heard that before and LOVED it!!) and wear the hot swim suit - it ain't gonna matter!! Besides it will make you feel sexy and that's worth a lot.
You mean a lot to me too, LKK. You're on my Gratitude List for sure and I love you very very much :)
LS