Diary of a Toxic Love Relationship

Why would a relatively wise and experienced woman stay in a relationship that would lead to her settling, selling her soul... All for the ability to say, "I have a boyfriend." The following blog takes the reader on the journey of discovery... Of confidence turned to confusion turned to craziness... I hope by the time this blog is complete, the journey will come full circle -- or to a destination even more joyous than its point of origin.

Monday, October 31, 2005

Subject: hey L.

Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:50:54
To: L.
From: E.

How was work? How did your pumpkin do?

I got your email, that was nice thanks.

Getting ready for work. Took a lil nappiepoo.

bye

Sunday, October 30, 2005

Subject: Dy-no-mite!

Sun, 30 Oct 2005 22:28:26
To: E.
From: L.

As in, Good Times. Which is what I had this weekend. Sunday was like a mini-vacay for me. Thanks for the chill time. It was dy-no-mite.

Hope work went well for you.

Thinking about your warm body next to mine. mmmmm

Sweet dreams. Talk with you soon.

muuuuwahhhh

Saturday, October 29, 2005

Subject: sex

Sat, 29 Oct 2005 06:46:03

To: L.
From: E.

Hey I am working at the Kent Station today. I should be done around 3. If you want to cum around 5 that would be super. If it is raining we can go and see a movie or somethin.

I will call you or call me in the afternoon. I have to work tomorrow morning. If there is work. Then the construction company I am working for wants me to start working Sunday nite at 9:30 pm. It's gunna be like that for 2 weeks. We can talk more about that later.

I'm excited to cu. Taste you. Hold you. Rub your body with mine. Ooooo shit I'm getten hard thinking about your wetness.

Kisses

Friday, October 28, 2005

"Yo Yo Yo" Message Thread

Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:25:21
To: E.

From: L.
Subject: Yo Yo Yo

Hola and TGIF,

Sending a little sunshine your way. Hope you have a fabulous day today.

I've been thinking on ya...

Think about me.

mucho kisses

L

P.S. if you whisper the magic words, I have a photo of myself in those black garters from the other night.


Fri, 28 Oct 2005 04:36:02
To: L.

From: E.
Subject: Re: Yo Yo Yo

O please O please O please!

That will give me something to think about when I play with myself.

Hope your day is great and I will cu tomorrow.

Kisses


Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:43:01
To: E.
From: L.
Subject: Re: Yo Yo Yo

Hmmmm, well, since I have a soft spot for early risers...

Enjoy, and I want to hear all about it tomorrow (or tonight by phone if you want to tease me...)

Have a great day!


Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:30:22
To: L.
From: E.
Subject: Re: Yo Yo Yo


Holy shit, your hot!

I will call you email you later. I've got a few earends to run before 5.

Hope your day was nice!

Think about me ...

e.

"TGIF and all that hoopla..." Message Thread

Sent: Fri 10/28/2005 12:03 PM
From: LKK
Subject: TGIF and all that hoopla...

Howdy-doo!

I am SOOOOOOOO glad it is Friday. This has been a draggy week. Not a whole lotta fun to go through (I know you can so relate). I hope you're feeling a little bit better today -- at least on the getting an ounce of sleep front.

I'm thinking that alot of my anxiety has been caused by the medication my doctor gave me last Friday to cure my cough. I can pretty much associate the change in nervousness since starting the Allegra and Nasonex. I'm all done with the Allegra and the Nasonex has one more day of sprays left. I am hoping that means that I will get back to some semblance of normalcy in the emotion department. That little drug interaction possibility just popped into my head last night.

I'm deciding that, sort of like the age-old dilemma of who came first, chicken or egg, that the anxiety was initially cause by the physical drug interactions and when triggered by emotions and questions arising from your experiences just swirled into an out-of-control, gotta-do-something, damn-E.-all-to-hell mountain when it should more rightly be a mole-hill of curiosity (about whether his feelings have changed about pursuing whatever it is we're pursuing.) I am now operating under the plan that everything is just as it's been between us until and if I hear differently when I talk with him on Saturday.

What-if's, speculations, attempts at motivations and mind reading are only feeding this underlying, exhausting anxiety that is taking a long time to diminish. I just feel sick most of the time. Nauseous. Dizzy. My appetite is suppressed (but you can believe I'm still eating -- I'm just not enjoying it as much). This is all wasted energy. That's my story and I'm sticking with it until I learn differently! :-)

Okay, my dear. What's going on for you?


Sent: Fri 10/28/2005 1:53 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: TGIF and all that hoopla...

Glad to hear from you & super glad you're in a better head space today.

I really, really don't want to have to share my Poor Me stage with you right now :-P

I'm glad you are going to go with a positive thinking method. Good for you girlfriend :)

I too am SO glad it's Friday. My weekend plans are changing around me, but I really don't care that much. The Wolfhaven thing is out the window – A.’s husband's mom's birthday dinner is that day and that will put us too late for them to do that so, they are cancelling on me. It's all good, but I did want to go. I think that this way I will be able to stay home and read -- I think I want to get into reading a bunch for awhile. Not watching TV because there's too much mush on there. Somehow reading mush doesn't upset me, but SEEING it really does. My eyes water like THAT and then I start to get upset. I guess I don't have that under control yet.

I have started listening to that other book on CD that I downloaded, Greg's newer book. I was mistaken, they don't read that book -- they have other people reading it. So it's not as good as the Pink one is, but the content is still very much the same and very good to listen to. Good tips, good suggestions & good reminders. I'm so, so glad to have these right now. Can't tell you how much it's done for me.

I put my personal ad back in the closet. I realized I didn't even WANT to do it, I was only putting it out there because G.'s was out there - but then when I did that, I started getting responses -- and I'm 100% not up for getting into anything even platonic with a new guy right now. Recovery makes perfect sense to me, I'm just not up for dating. G. makes for tough shoes to fill - I think I'll have to let this pain heal however it heals. Dunno how long it will take to feel better, but I don't think rebounding is fair to anyone. At least I don't think so today :) Might change my mind in the next week or two, who knows. Besides that you know what .. G. took his ad down. Isn't that interesting? I thought perhaps he was doing something to it, but it hasn't been up there all week. I suspect that means it's down. I'm working on not asking myself any stupid questions about WHY he's done that. It doesn't matter one way or another. He hasn't called and I haven't either. Each day that goes my re-enforces the fact that it's OVER, although of course I'm still holding out hope. Maybe he will call me over the weekend ... but like I said, each day makes it clearer so I'll just keep holding out for the next day, and see where it takes me. You know, I have to go to that god-awful wedding next weekend in Eastern WA. I got a jacuzzi room cuz I thought G was going with me .. so now it will cost me extra money AND I have to drive 4 hours by myself AND I have to attend by myself. I can't tell you how badly I'd take a root canal over this wedding bizness right now. I love B., and I know her wedding will be stunning .. and I'm happy for her, but I do not want to go. Boy do I not want to go. I'm going to try not to think about that until later next week. Still don't have a dress, guess I'll have to fix that this weekend somehow.

Anyway, there you have it. My update for now. I'm better, and yes I did get some sleep last night. Still super glad it's Friday, let me tell you!!

I'm ready to get outta here right now and it's only just about 2:00. What a long day this has been.


Sent: Fri 10/28/2005 2:06 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: TGIF and all that hoopla...

Only 2:00? dang, this is going to be a long afternoon.... What time are you leaving today?

My eyes are so heavy. I don't dare even take a sip of coffee the way my heart is dancing around in my chest. I hate that feeling of being all sleepy and heavy-faced, yet have my stomach in knots and my heart racing. If... I... could... just... put... my... head... down... Just for a sec...

Good for you for listening to yourself and taking your profile down. It would be so easy to be distracted with flirtations, etc. Sounds like that is not going to be good or fun for you right now... And isn't that what dating should aim to be? Not a drag on your conscience or self-esteem or humor. So good for you for respecting and loving the woman inside who needs some time to heal and face the world again with fresh eyes. :-)

That is definitely strange that G. took his profile down. I'm with you though. I don't want to speculate on the reasons why. If I were to quote my Buddha book at you, I would be saying that if your path is meant to be with him right now, circumstances will occur that make that possible (i.e. he calls you, you run into him, etc.) Something like that anyway. Sounds hokey. I say you go with the break-up book's suggestion that 60 days go by with no contact -- especially not any that you initiate. Are you down with that? Or are you at the decision regretting phase? You know, it's okay wherever you are in this process. It's only human to have that little bit of hope every time the phone rings. Especially if you want something badly. You're entitled.

Something else healthy that I see you doing is mixing up doing activities when you don't really want to do them, as well as relishing time spent doing something nice for yourself like reading. And I hear ya on the whole "seeing" mush as opposed to "reading" mush. Especially stay away from the Lifetime channel -- not a good one to view when you're in the healing process. It's like ripping a bandaid off a scab!

Geez, I'm sorry to hear the whole story about the wedding for next weekend. I don't think you ever told me all that you had planned or were looking forward to with that. It's good that you're not going to give it any extra angst this weekend. Deal with it next week. These things have a way of working themselves out somehow. It's weird, but they usually do.

I did something silly last night. I put my Hot or Not profile back up. Even if I go forward with the thought that nothing is wrong until I hear it is wrong. He's never taken his profile down and he's still using the site for some sort of entertainment, even if it isn't to meet anyone else. I'm bored and I miss the admiration. This is me being selfish. I wasn't going to say anything about it to you, but I would rather have things out in the open than feel like I'm slinking around doing "bad" things. :-) But, I assure you, I will follow my own advice to you up above, and as soon as it feels skanky, guilt-inducing or anything negative, down it goes. I don't want to appear TOO hypocritical. :-)

How did your dad's ct scan go yesterday?


Sent: Fri 10/28/2005 2:52 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: TGIF and all that hoopla...

You're so funny :)

Like I'm someone you should be worrying about judging you. Silly girl! You should know that no matter what you decide to do, I'm here for you FIRST in support, then in judgement - and only that when you ask me. It's YOUR life, and your decisions to make. No matter what I think, my opinion only belongs to me. And, for that matter, I don't think putting your ad back up is a bad thing. I am a little sensitive to him not taking his down either so hey, to hell with it. I guess to me, sex means something. Whether it's rolling in the sheets or really making love, it's supposed to mean something no matter what. When it means something to me, I don't think it's appropriate to be letting other people think I'm single. Because in my head and my heart, I'm not. I might not be in the throes of a deep relationship, but I don't sleep with more than one guy at a time (usually, anyway!! LOL) so that needs to be addressed before more BS can be heaped onto my already full plate.

Anyway, I'm just running at the mouth. Don't ask me what I'm trying to say LOLI think the karma Buddha thing you mentioned makes perfect and total sense. I think if we are supposed to be back together, we will be. For ME, personally, I will NOT call him. Not this week, not next, and not in 60 days. That's a big thing in the breakup book, especially for people who did the breaking up -- you do NOT get to call. So there's my excuse, I CAN'T. I'm not allowed. No matter how great I think he is, no matter how much I miss him .. I just CAN NOT do it. I will listen to these CD's until I turn purple, and complain and whine for as long as it takes. I have already entertained the idea of contacting him at Christmas time, but by then I suspect I will think differently so for now I am allowing myself some leeway. But I know me, and it will be up to him to make this happen unless I 100% by mistake ran into him at a store or something like that - which can't happen without help from above.

I will talk to him (gladly) if he calls, and yes I would see him again if he asked me. But those things have to come from his mouth or his fingers (ala email). Again, I do not see that happening.

My dad's CT scan, by the way (and thank you for remembering & asking!) went well. The cancer is almost totally gone, there is one place where there is a dark spot and they think it might even be scar tissue. They are going to do another PET scan (full body) to see if they can decipher what it is, then maybe possibly do radiation on that little place and follow up with a little bit of chemo. For now he's off the hook, he has some time off. He can go on trips, he can do whatever he feels well enough to do. They told him to ease back into things because he will still be tired, but that he's healthy for the most part and he should bounce back. Isn't that something ... you can be absolutely on death's door one day, and bouncing back to travelling again, just a few weeks later. I'm totally amazed and humbled by the experience, and it really gives me something to focus on when I get too into ME ME ME. It's just boys, it's not cancer. I am worth more than being upset, sad or disappointed. I am entitled to be happy. I deserve it. We all deserve it.

I'm not gonna stay too long today, there ain't much to do round here. I will probably leave around 4, I think that sounds like a nice time to go home. Get me out of too much traffic and home in time to take care of the Principessa and go meet J. for dinner. Earlier I meet J., the earlier I get to go to bed LOLOL


Sent: Fri 10/28/2005 3:04 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: TGIF and all that hoopla...

Thank you for re-iterating what I already knew about how you approach my confession. :-) I already knew that, but it's nice to hear. And I do rely on you for some checks and balances. Just like I can't help but throw my two cents into the mix. hee hee

That is such fabulous news about your dad. I remember when things just looked so bleak. And look at how it worked out. That is so so cool. I am sure that has to be a major relief on his part as well as for you and S. Did he ever get over his crabbies and making himself hard to tolerate? :-) Fear and anxiety do some particularly strange things to people. You can just never predict.

Sounds like a good idea to get out of there early. I wish I could too, but I'll hang in. I have some things to work on, I'm just not all that hyped about them. :-)

I hope you have a great weekend! You've got some fun things planned as well as lay-low stuff. Sounds like a pretty dang good mix. Wish me luck with E. tomorrow. I'm going to ask him for some things that I want. Last week he was so good about warning me that he would be out of touch that this week came as a shock. As did not spending a weekday evening together. It's not always easy for me to be upfront with what I want when it is truly important. The little stuff rarely bothers me to ask for. This may be just little stuff in his eyes -- that's the whole confusing/frustrating/exciting/revealing part of unravelling the layers of someone. :-)

Okay, you have a terrific weekend and give me a call if you want. Except for Saturday evening, I should be around.

Kisses and hugs!


Sent: Fri 10/28/2005 3:12 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: TGIF and all that hoopla...

You always have my love & support, and I do wish you luck on Saturday expressing yourself. Remember, it's just fear (sounds easy to say I know -- but remember I just walked thru a bunch of it so I dang well know what it is!!) and it's better not to have wasted any more time being unhappy than you already have. If there is something you're wanting or missing, then you have to say it. You owe it to yourself and you owe it to him. Besides like you said, you just can't predict how things will go.

Good luck darlin. I love you :)

Thursday, October 27, 2005

"FW: National Girlfriend Week" Message Post

Sent: Thu 10/27/05 3:30 PM
To: LS
Subject: RE: FW: National Girlfriend Week

Mad today.

I am still not sleeping and so I'm getting really, really cranky.

Hate it.

How are you?

Tell me something good.


Sent: Thu 10/27/05 3:45 PM
From: LKK
Subject: RE: FW: National Girlfriend Week

Geez, I wish I could. I am uber-pissed myself. The irritation's been escalating each day until today I've reached a 3 on my irritation scale that goes from 0 (not irritated, to 1 (mild), 2 (moderate) and 3 (severe). I have to keep track of certain elements of mood to create a mood chart to track my bi-polar episodes. Each day this week the anxiety and irritation scale has been climbing until I'm at 3's.

I was in a pretty great mood Monday, until I hit that squirrel driving in to work from my head doc's appt. Then from there it's gone steadily downhill. E.'s been pretty incommunicado, work's been kinda hit and miss and I've just been feeling pretty disconnected from things. The anxious thoughts have become obsessional until I just want someone to take me out back and shoot me to put me out of my misery.

At least I've been sleeping though. Although my dreams have been whack! Lots of action and arguing and such. I can't tell you exactly what they've been -- just know that they haven't been restful at all. Still, I am thankful that I've at least gotten some sleep. I feel better while I'm working out -- so that's good. But not too long after I go right back to where I started from.

Sorry I can't be more of a ray of sunshine. This is just truly where I'm at right now. Some of it has to do with E., I'll be honest about that. But alot of it feels just totally out of control and I've struggled to put my finger on just what's causing the unrest. It's easy to point to worries about whether I'm going to need to do what you did with G. I may have to -- but I hesitate, 'cause this could just be part of my "affliction." And when I'm afflicted, I search out the easiest target.

Yes, he hasn't been that tuned in to our "whatever-you-want-to-call-it" like he's been previously. He has been in touch via e-mail -- but our single phone conversation for the week last night was pretty one-sided (him rambling about work stuff). I finally asked him when I was going to see him. He suddenly realized it was already going to be Thursday, and, geez, where did the week go so fast? Bottom line we're supposed to "hang out" on Saturday down at his place, have a bbq and maybe play some tennis.

Now the rational, intelligent, and confident, non-bi-polar part of me recognizes that we all have good weeks and bad weeks. Because I'm having a bad week, I'm needing him to be his up-to-now, wanting-to-see-me, self. While in reality, he's in stressed-out, mishap la-la-land.

So I'm struggling with being patient with myself. I'm struggling with being patient about the development or falling-apart of this relationship. I'm struggling to find that one-day-at-a-time mentality that has kept me healthy for the last couple of months. Mostly, I'm struggling with just surving day by day.


What I've discovered is that I'm not the most suicidal when I'm depressed, it's when I'm pissed off that I wouldn't mind biting the big one.

So, my dear, I totally understand you feeling cranky times 10. I hope that you can find your "sleep ability" again. Sleep deprivation in no way prepares you to face the world from a clean perspective, that's for sure.

Hmm, so what's good that we can focus on? What are all these great activities you have planned for the weekend?

I'm looking forward to my workout with P. tomorrow night and a dose of Kung Pao squid. Right now my stomach is so bloated from all the great food we had at our Quarterly Birthday Potluck that I'm about to burst! But I still can picture my Kung Pao Squid night as a good thing. :-)

I'm not really looking forward to Saturday -- but that's mostly because my feelings have been hurt -- and I'm in retreat mode. I've got a delicious menu planned for what I'm going to bring. I am going to get some good steaks at QFC for E. to grill, a big slew of mushrooms that I'll shake in a bag with olive oil and garlic to broil, and then one of those Caesar Salads in a bag that I'll get some shrimp to add on. Sound good? Do I need any bread or anything do you think?

I figure I'll focus on the food -- not the seduction, 'cause I honestly don't know if I'll be interested in that. Right now I'm not. I want to be sure within myself that I'm being true to me with that feeling -- and not doing the whole withholding as a punishment. Time will tell.

Hmmmm... need to wrap up with something funny.... something good....

Tell you what, my dad sent me one of these videos. I don't know if you've ever heard of the "Fruitcake Lady" -- but apparently she's a recurring visitor on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno. If you want a good laugh, go to the following site and watch a few of her videos. :-) http://humor.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The%5FTonight%5FShow%5Fwith%5FJay%5FLeno/fruitcake%5Flady/

Sorry for the vent session. This doo-doo has been swirling around in my head for a few days now. I'm getting really exhausted with it. I almost punched my dentist yesterday I was so irritated with all the scraping the hygienist did, and the fact that they have to keep poking at places I've ALREADY told them are sensitive. What's up with that?!?!? And my dentist is actually a hottie!

Okay, I'm done. ;-)

Your turn!


Sent: Thu 10/27/2005 4:21 PM
From: LS
Subject: RE: FW: National Girlfriend Week

Dang, girl, all I can say is EWWE ...

I am sorry you've got angst. Don't I know the muck that feels like. Smells like. "Is it okay or is it not?" messages from my brain were like poison. I'm sorry you've caught it. I'd say you're thinking about it because I was, and because you were listening to me vent and going - hey, E. does that sometimes too! - and letting your brain grab onto that crap for your own. It may be yours to have, or it may not be -- so I suggest giving yourself this weekend to test for yourself how things are going between YOU TWO. Not between me, you and E:)

Your menu ideas for Saturday sound great, and yes I'd worry about a little bitta bread. But that's between you two - if you're both not very bread people I'd say don't worry about it.

Tonight I have a pizza meeting at my treatment center. We do it every 8 weeks or so. I am the main honcho, I have to sit up in front of the room and kind of moderate. Pay attention. Look pleasant. Pay attention. Smile. I don't want to go, can you tell?

Tomorrow night I'm making up dinner with my friend J. We're going to Mexican pretty close to my house. I was going to meet her Tuesday but then after my Monday night drama I was in no shape for that so I cancelled on her. We are rescheduled and I asked if it could be just a quick dinner to catch up, hug up and say Hi. She was cool with that. I really feel like I need to be away from people right now. Everyone keeps trying to make me feel better but all that sympathy does is make me cry!! I need the levy to get a little stronger cuz the dam is chuckablock full still.

Sat I am going to go to the gym (!!! I know your eyebrows went up!) and get my nails done. Sat night, Hell's Belles is playing in Seattle with an Aerosmith cover band. Should be good, mean music to work out some frustration to. I'm going with K. so far, and I hope she doesn't wuss out. I really want to go to that.

Sunday morning I've been asked to share my alcohol story at a speaker's meeting (meaning, I speak for half the frickin meeting!! I have not yet ever done that in a meeting) and I've agreed to do that. I'm scared and I don't want to go but saying No just isn't a good thing to do in AA. People need people to make it work. I'm not more important than them so I need to go. I'm freaked.

Sunday afternoon if it is not raining, A. & I are taking her kids down to Tenino to go see this Halloween thing they have going on at Wolfhaven. Sounds like a carnival almost, and it's a costume party so we're all dressing up. I hope I am better prepared by then -- that will suck if I'm still in a bad mood. Maybe it will rain and I won't have to deal with it (listen to me!)

There you go Missy. That's all I got to share today. I'm packing up and headed to the post office to drop stuff off then home .. my dad's CT scan was today around 2:30 and he met with the doc at 3 so I'm kind of hoping he'll call me & give me the update but, I'm sure he'll wait until he gets home and then call. He was worried about it, so I was too. Hope it's workable news.

I hope you have a better evening, try to think good things and happy thoughts without gagging LOL .. Raindrops on Roses and all that grand BS :D

We'll make a big effort to be HAPPY tomorrow, ok??? :) I've had it with this dragging around glum stuff. Really. I'm ready to be done with it.

Wish my heart and my head would get with the program!!!

Gnite darlin

Hugs!

Wednesday, October 26, 2005

"jus' checkin in" Message Thread

Sent: Wed 10/26/2005 11:50 AM
From: LS
Subject: jus' checkin in

Hello there,

I went home at noon yesterday and did the poor me on the couch bit all day and far into the night. Watched the World Series and then couldn't sleep until I think, 3? Anyway, I did manage to get up and get showered and out the door this morning, and I am here. A. and I are going to get lunch from the teriyaki joint so I'm looking forward to that. Nothing like some teriyaki to chase away the blues :) actually, I think it's the rice, to be honest .. from my childhood I think it makes me feel comforted. But hey they say carbs in general are comforting and I'm all over that too. Any excuse to have a carb.

I do feel better today, obviously. Bad humor is better than none. I still hurt, and in some ways more so - but along the lines of bitter and mad today than sad and emotional. My ego is having a great time being pissed off that G. doesn't want me as much as I want him and that he isn't calling me to apologize and beg for me to give him another chance. Honestly, he's not at all that type of guy - but my ego thinks he should do it anyway. I don't expect him to call me (if he did it wouldn't be anytime soon) but of course I keep hoping every second that he will. I am better today than yesterday, and I think tomorrow I will be a little bit better than today. I have gotten over other broken hearts and broken relationships, and I will work thru this one too. I miss him, and I want things to be different, but unfortunately we just don't always get what we want. It's not a life-threatening situation. It doesn't have to be a drama. I will live thru it. These are the things I keep telling myself, and I think with a little Divine inspiration I am starting to feel like I believe it.

Anyway, just wanted to say hello and reach out for a bit. I know you're sad for me and that you're there if I need you, and I love you for it and thank you for it. I just don't know what to say about it other than the same speech I have had to say time & time again. Boy oh boy listening to the Pink Book on CD is an amazing tool. Thank God. It saved my life I think when I read it, and it's saving my life again. I will copy them for you so you can have it too. You will be shocked at how different it is to hear someone say those things to you out loud. Well, really, maybe you won't be, because things are good for you & Terbie ma man :) I'm so glad for you. I hope you've made time to get together this week and that you are plotting your next seductive outfit to woo him senseless!

I might be more normal tomorrow, but I bet by Friday I will be for sure. I have things I have to show up for this week, so I need to be operational soon.

Hope you are enjoying your Wednesday and if you feel like dashing a note, please do.

XOXOL


Sent: Wed 10/26/2005 1:45 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: jus' checkin in

Hey there,

Thanks for letting me know how you're doing. I'm glad you're having moments of brightness (teriyaki therapy sounds pretty good to me!) mixed in with the boo-hoo-blues. Just remember, you're entitled to the blues. You have to go through a period of mourning. Hopes that didn't materialize and the end of, at the very least, a friendship. It sounds like you're doing good stuff for yourself. I'm glad for that.

And I know exactly what you're saying about the wanting him to call. To beg to be taken back. Given another chance... Those feelings are okay too. You liked him alot -- it's hard to just turn those feelings off, even if you're the breaker-upper. You can expect yourself to be jumpy and looking at your phone often. Checking e-mail. Looking at your instant messenger (if he used that). It's natural. And, as you're finding, it gets a little less all-encompassing every day. You might go along great for a few days and then, whammo, something triggers all these feelings again. I know you know all this. I just want to remind you that it's normal. The grieving process isn't an overnight thing.

The key is, you're doing great things for yourself. Try to be gentle with yourself. And if you possibly can, go to the gym. It may be the last thing you want to do. It may feel impossible to muster the strength and energy to go. But do it. The carb monster will do its all-powerful best to make you feel bad about yourself -- like you're making yourself feel purposefully bad about yourself if you should gain a few pounds. Not only that, but if you remember Greg and Amira talking about what to do after a break-up.... It's not just me, the exercise nazi, preaching at you. :-)

I think hearing the words out loud is good for anyone, whether they're in a "good" relationship or not. E. and I are still so new, even after 2 months, that we're still trying to figure things out. Pink Book words help keep things in perspective. So far we don't have any plans this week. We haven't spoken on the phone yet -- but I've left messages and he's left e-mails. lol It does have me a little nuts, to be quite frank, but I'm also trying to keep a realistic perspective on the whole thing. It's not easy when the gremlins start up, but I'd doing my best to actually "be with" the unrest rather than running from it entirely. Somehow I think that being with those anxieties will eventually drain them of their power.

Thank you for the good thoughts while you're feeling so blue. I appreciate your support and love, you're a treasure!


Sent: Wed 10/26/2005 3:03 PM

From: LS
Subject: Re: jus' checkin in

You're such a good strong support for me :)

Thanks for all the good stuff you sent my way.

I hope you guys figure your plans out! I hate for you to be rattled about it. I can relate.
I am somewhat grateful to have a lot going on the rest of my week, so at least I can't just
stay home & isolate although truth be told, it's everything I want to do. I want to stay home
on the couch with my remote in one hand and the phone next to me waiting for the call. The
one I would bet money ain't never coming. It will sink in eventually. I'm too jaded to think it will be any different this time. In the scheme of things I'll take jaded.

Isn't it funny how when you're upset in any way the iPod gods always know what kind of music you most don't need to be hearing ... LOL .. right now, my iTunes is playing Joan Jett's "I hate myself for loving you" and the irony is just too much.
Okay back to the pile on my desk. It's 3:00 and I know I can make it thru this long day!
Talk to you tomorrow probably .. hugs, darlin!

Subject: mornin sunshine

Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:30:06

To: L.
From: E.

wanted you to know I was thinking about you!

have a great day!

e

Tuesday, October 25, 2005

Subject: Hey

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:43:02

To: L.
From: E.

Hi L., hope your day was good. I was thinking about you ... I was on the couch, kinda touchen myself.

There is a break in the game. I am going to bed early tonight. I was up late yesterday or last night. The kitchen sink flooded. Not so good..

Call me tomorrow or I'll call you.

kisseskisseskisses .....e

Saturday, October 22, 2005

"hi" Message Thread

Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:40:35
To: L.
From: E.
Subject: hi

Just getting ready for work ......... I don't wanna go!


I'll call you when I get done. I'm thinking I'm Gunna need a nap before hand.

kisses


Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:14:16
To: E.
From: L.
Subject: Re: hi

Oooh, baby, I don't blame you. 6:40 is for sleeping or snuggling or sumpin' else...

Just let me know what you need. Nap... snacks... blow job...

Oops, did I just type that?

Forgive me, I'm all silly this morning.

Thank you for the heads up and I'll be listening for your call.

muuuuu-waaah

Friday, October 21, 2005

"Happy Friday Girl :)" Message Thread

Sent: Fri 10/21/05 7:59 AM
From: LS
Subject: Happy Friday Girl :)

Good morning to you & TGIF as well!

I hope you & Eric had a great time last night. I indeed was sending you love and happiness so I hope y'all caught it, and laughed a lot!

Man oh man am I glad it's Friday. This has been a long week. I have not slept well and have had so much on my mind between G., my sponsor, Greg B. (from last Fri) and everything else that found its way into my head. I'm exhausted. I am getting my hair colored and trimmed tomorrow though, and I am looking OH so forward to that!! So is T-dog for that matter LOL although I highly doubt she's looking forward to it. In fact I didn't tell her yet. She's gonna find out soon enough. I'm gonna ask J. (my hair girl) to tone down the red stuff and let's go more dark brown all over this time. There's a lot of funky faded-out reds and weird browns coming thru and they all need to be unified I think.

So. Last night I left work at 4 and went home early. G. called around 4:30, he knew I was having a heckofa day (I'd told him already) and he asked me what I was doing for dinner, which of course nothing, and he asked me over so I went. I expected a quickie dinner and a kick out the door so he could study or whatever but he didn't do that. Dinner was nice (as always), we had a kind of italian chicken dish with broccoli and chocolate brownie with ice cream (God bless his sweet tooth!). We watch Survivor and the Apprentice, he did laundry and I did the dishes, and we had couch sex which surprisingly was fun yesterday LOL so, when I came home around 10 it was a very full evening and we got along well. He even asked me what my plans for tonight were, but he didn't go into WHY he was asking. I know the people at Morton's are re-vamping all the pictures they have up on their walls and they've asked some current regulars to pose for pictures, so of course they asked G. The photo shoot (and I'm sure the follow-up drinks) is tonight as far as I know. I couldn't imagine he'd ask me to go with him to that. I was thinking I'd ask my friend J. who I haven't seen in awhile to go to dinner with me tonight and turn my phone off so that G. can't call me when he's all buzzed and warm- fuzzy asking me to come over and spend the night. I don't feel like bootie call girl today.

I got a message in my personals box from a guy who had emailed me before saying that he'd never heard back from me the last time and wondered if I'd reconsider .. I told him I'd answered his note & never heard back from HIM, but he swears he would have answered it if he'd gotten something .. anyway I told him I wouldn't be up for anything fast-paced right now, that email and phone calls are really all I would be up for at least for awhile, and he said he was all about that as well. He's 46 and lives in Mukilteo. Not exactly the 7-minute commute to G.'s but hey you can't have everything, I guess, huh? ... anyway, I guess I'm going to have to rally if I'm going to play the personals game again. My hearts just not in it yet, I guess. I know I should probably not be doing it but I figure if I can't handle it I can always just turn my "not accepting emails right now" on in my Inbox and stop whenever I want to without pulling the ad. My mean little girl wants G. to know it's out there and feel the sting of it. Then again, even if he knows he may not even feel anything. Maybe that's just a sensitive girl thing.

I wanted to touch base and let you know that although I feel like someone just poured some vinegar in my blood, I am not all that emotional about it right now. "Oh well" attitude for now is what's taking place. We shall see how it plays out. For now, I feel angry for some reason, like I'm being cheated somehow by having invested my feelings and having G. not accept them on my terms. Very very selfish behavior, I know -- exactly what my sponsor told me to quit. But that's going to be the bottom line I think, every time, that he & I really don't seem to be looking for the same things, no matter how we each candy coat it. That damn wedding he's supposed to be going to with me is Nov 4-5 which is coming up and I have no idea if he's still going to go with me or not. I'm scared either way -- it's a 3.5 hour drive one way and I don't know how I'll make it thru the weekend no matter whether we are getting along or not. I almost want to address it now and just tell him he doesn't have to worrry about going, but I know he'll take that in the worst way and I am not so up for all that drama right now, either. I think I really need this weekend to chill and soak in the feelings that are bubbling over. I gotta work at not lashing out and not acting out, I think .. I definitely feel the push to do something stupid just to avoid feeling this way. I am going to find some meetings for the weekend and do some ME stuff, and try to get good sleep. I think that would be what my sponsor would tell me to do, and yeah I should just call & talk to her about it all but I know her patience with me & my boyfriend behavior is not so good most of the time.

What do you think? Also, by the way, I am fully expecting some details about last night's show and time spent. How was the outfit and how big did he smile when he saw you in that skirt? :)


Sent: Fri 10/21/05 3:19 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: Happy Friday Girl :)

Hey there!

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. This morning was my adventure in modern health care. :-) And I didn't get to work until 12:30 (I was supposed to be here by around 11:30). But I experienced many delays at the doctor's office this morning.

At 9:50 I had an appointment to do a fasting blood draw. I was a good girl and arrived 10 minutes early. So, except for an apple at 10:30, I hadn't eaten anything since 6:30 when I had a s-m-a-l-l dinner with E.. I repeat small (for me). One side order chimichanga. Not even the chimi meal. I wasn't that hungry, but I also wasn't interested in the gas and bloat that accompany mexican rice and refried beans! :-)

Well, at about 10:20 they finally call me in for the blood draw. Not too big of a deal, just two tubes of blood. I think what they're testing is cholesterol and glucose/triglycerides. This takes until about 10:26 when I excitedly think I only have 4 minutes to wait for my doctor's appointment at 10:30. WRONGO. 10:55 I get called back into the room. Go through all the "what are you in for's" and "the doctor will be right with you's." 20 minutes later -- all of which were spent with one of those stupid paper drapes over my lower half because I'm going to get a pelvic -- the doctor comes in. She's really cool, so I'm not complaining about her service. She's very thorough and compassionate and I think that's what puts her way behind getting to patients.

So this exam and questions and tests and all takes until about 11:40. I leave the office knowing I don't suffer from a yeasty-beasty, and armed with allergy medicine (allevert) and nasal steroid spray to address the post nasal drip that is causing (we think) my cough that refuses to go away. If nothing gets better by next week, then I need to go back in. Of course my biggest hypochondriac worry is lung cancer (since this is pretty much how my mom's started), but I know that I am totally overreacting. But this is where I congratulate Dr. P. on her compassion and bedside manner. She didn't make me feel like an idiot. She told me reasons why she didn't think that lung cancer was even in the forecast and even explained how, way back when, my mom's cancer (originally diagnosed as pneumonia) was mis-diagnosed the first time.

Long story short, it wasn't until noon that I was able to get my first bite of food in my body. Oh, and I have sore and achy arms where I got my hepatitis A & B boosters.

I'm just getting around to taking care of e-mails, and that's why I'm not writing until now. Phew! :-)

My evening with E. was a blast. The comedians were so funny. There was the warm-up guy, Daniel Levy, who also played host -- introducing the two other comics. The 2nd comic was a guy named Mike Birbiglia (I know how to spell it because he did this whole schpeel on telemarketers and their difficulty in pronouncing his name). I forgot that he was going to be there last night. He is a hoot! I actually enjoyed him better than Greg Giraldo, who I went there to see. Giraldo was pretty intense and political and angry about women. I don't remember that from his previous gigs, so I was a little let down there -- but he was still funny as hell. I think I liked Birbiglia better because he was very self-deprecating and that was hilarious.

E. enjoyed himself alot. We found some different things funny, but there was much laughter to go around. He has a great laugh -- I don't hear it very often because he's more of a smiler than a laugher. It's really rich and deep laughter, so I was liking that. He liked my external outfit alot, but my underneath outfit a WHOLE lot. He couldn't stop staring. That was pretty cool. I felt sexy wearing it all day, and I was definitely rewarded for my effort with his looks and compliments and other things... :-)

I had packed my stuff "just in case" I stayed overnight at his place. I let him know that I had that stuff in the car, but it certainly didn't imply that I was expecting to do a sleep over. I just wanted him to know, so he could think about it and decide after the show. He said he would think about it -- which wasn't the DREAM response I wanted, but was certainly the response I expected, if you know what I mean. While we were waiting for the show to start, I was doing my little detective work to see if he was going to take C. out to view homes or if he was going to the Rocky-D's party at T’s house on Saturday with me. So I say, "Have you set up another date to go out with C.?"

And he says, "I e-mailed her some properties and told her I wouldn't be able to take her out until Sunday night if she wanted to act on them. And that when I come up with stuff she has any interest in, she better be able to go out right then or she'll lose them."

And I say, "So does that mean you're coming to the party with me." Knowing that if that is the case, he has actually worked his whole schedule out so that he will be able to go with me. That's pretty big.

He said yes. I think he liked how excited I got. We did a little of the "how long will we stay" dance, and I told him I'd try not to stay past him getting bored because of the team meeting. I explained I had to be there because I'm the treasurer, and he thought about it a moment and said that he was sure that there would be other people there to talk to. I told him, yeah, it would be all the wives and girlfriends... Would he be able to handle that? LOL He was all over that.

And he did ask me to stay over, although he warned me he probably wouldn't be able to stay awake for long. Of course, that changed once he saw the underneath outfit. lol I had warned him that everything would have to be reallly gentle if we did anything because of the pelvic exam the next day. I have to tell you, LS, that was some of the best sumpin-sumpin' I have ever had. No joke. It was pretty amazing. And so nice to sleep with him after -- so relaxed and warm and close. I had a lot of trouble coughing last night, because I was sleeping flat (I sleep more upright at home because of the coughing.) He would wake up a couple of times and ask me if I was sleeping ok. When I told him I was worried my coughing was keeping him awake, he told me not to worry about him. He was just fine. So I slept alot better after that. I did keep waking up, because I still haven't discovered how to sleep soundly with him yet. But it was so nice.
Particularly since he didn't have to work in the morning (he's doing an afternoon/evening job today) and I didn't have to be at the doctor's until 9:50 (and not expected at work until after). So it was much more relaxed. And kind of funny when I was getting up before him -- which was a first! He did get up right after I did, and it was hilarious that I partook of my morning ritual (listening to Mitch in the Morning on KJR Sports) while getting ready, and he brewed up a pot of coffee while he watched ESPN to get his sports info.

So VERY long novel short, I had a fabulous evening. There were a few rough patches at dinner on my side (I had some sort of anxiety attack on the way to meeting him at the restaurant) so it took me awhile to connect. He always gets so quiet when I talk about my stuff. I feel like he's bored or just wants me to get through with the story. Every time I make some kind of comment at the end of one of my long-winded stories I end with a "blah blah blah" like I've been talking to much. And he always says something like I'm not talking too much. I don't know if he's just being polite or a good listener. He makes eye contact and such, but doesn't really say anything. But then, I think I say too much -- I always feel like I need to make some sort of acknowledging comment or ask a question or make an empathetic statement. I think that's just the difference in our communication styles.

He's either coming over to my place at 4:30 tomorrow to watch the first World Series game before the party, or he'll come up right before we leave for the party. It just depends on whether he works in the morning or not and needs a nap before the party -- especially since he'll be working into the night tonight. Because we keep each other in the loop with plans for the day (he's getting good at that as he gets to know me better), it makes it so much easier to know what to expect. I know I'm getting him for the party and if he comes over for the game it will be a bonus. Either way, the earliest he'll be there is 4:30 and I am able to plan out my day that way. Does that make sense?

This is already a huge e-mail and we haven't even gotten to you yet! lol

I think it's great that you've got your hair appointment to look forward to. That is always exciting. :-) You'll have to take a picture and send it to me of the changes. Hopefully we'll see each other soon, so I won't just have to see your new do via photo.

What I think is an even BETTER idea is to go out to dinner tonight and leave your phone off. As your breakup buddy (even if it's not a breakup), I recommend you leave that phone off. Live this weekend for you. You've got lots of you-stuff planned and that is perfect. Meetings are good. Lunches with friends are good. Soaking in a tub with a good book is good. Taking a walk outside where it feels like summer but smells like fall is a great idea. :-)

You have a great photo on your Yahoo Personals profile, by the way. Very flattering! Even if you just flirt and chat a little, it's good for your ego and it's fun. And as long as it feels fun for you, then do it. If you start feeling guilt, or sad or whatever, stop right away. Life is too short. And even though you can expect to have unpleasant situations in life, if you have control over what you do to that contributes to you feeling bad, then get out. Stop. Cease. Desist.

Now, as you know, it's not that easy for me either. It took me awhile to take that last cease and desist step -- and look what kind of turmoil I brought on myself. I think that each time I do that, the turmoil gets a little less.

The key issue here, whether it's with G. or anyone else, is what do you, LS, want in a relationship? Write it down. LS's expectation list. Be specific -- generalities leave too many loopholes and allow more room for disappointment and hurt feelings. For instance:

1. I expect to spend 3 nights a week with my significant other.
2. I expect to stay in daily contact with my significant other, whether by phone or e-mail.
3. My significant other will not call me while intoxicated.
4. My significant other will not visit bars or parties X #of days a week.
5. My significant other will not just like dogs, but like MY dog.

And on and on. The key here is specificity. This is about you and what you want.

Now, about the wedding. Do you have evidence of prior occasions where G. has forgotten specific plans? Plans that actually involved a calendar date and location? Not just non-specific get together plans? If so, then you can entertain the thought that he might have forgotten this occasion. Otherwise, he shows quite a bit of evidence in remembering specific, date-centric plans -- and not just because they are with "the guys." :-) I hope I don't sound harsh. I don't mean to.

If you don't want to continue with G., cancel the wedding plans. This is about you. And what you want deep down inside. Not the hurt little girl who wants to slash out and make him hurt too. Show me how much you care, dammit!

LS, he does. He really really does. I'm not saying this to blow smoke or give you false hope. His guy friends are not more important than you are. They are just friends and it's actually very good that you both have outside friends and spend time apart from each other. It makes the time that you spend together so much better because you both choose to be there, not because you need to be there. He calls you every day. He makes dinner for you. He asks about your friends. He asks about your plans. He talks to you about tough, dramatic stuff when he could just choose to say, "this is too much work for me. I quit."

He doesn't do that. He makes an effort to change and be sweet and loving and be what you want him to be.

The question isn't whether he likes you enough or not. He likes you. He wants to be with you. Those are the facts as I see them. Remember this is my perspective garnered from all that you've told me. I haven't been there with you.

The Question is this... Where does G. fall on LS's list of expectations? He's a nice guy. Granted. But is he "your" guy? Decide what on that list of expectations are the deal breakers. Share the list with him if you are into him enough, so that he has the opportunity to decide to modify his behavior to meet the expectations. If you're not that into him, or he chooses not to work within the deal breakers, then it will be decision time.

Geez, this is so much stuff to write in an e-mail. And I hope that it's coming across with honesty and tempered with the good feelings I have for you. I just want you to be happy and not beat yourself up about this. I think the first bit of work you have to do is to compile that list. Maybe seeing it in writing will sharpen up the edges here. I believe that alot of the drama and discomfort you feel comes from having edges that just blur into unknown.

You are the center of this universe. You are the goddess here. As God to give you guidance if that will help you. Break out the pink book again for a sec. I think there's something in there about the expectation list. The key is specificity.

I love you, LS!


Sent: Fri 10/21/05 4:16 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Happy Friday Girl :)

Wowwwwwie you've gotta have some seriously tired fingers after this one!

And you've sent some long ones, but I think this one is a record :)

I loved it.

I'm SO SO glad you two are gelling!!Damn that just makes my toes curl, I'm so happy about it. It does sound very sweet and like he's come around towards you as you've gone around towards him. That is so great, LKK. I hope you have another great day tomorrow and congrats on the positivity. You are totally blowing my mind with it, mostly the consistency ... and I think it's amazing and awesome. I'm almost catching it ;-)

I read what you said about G. and I'm going to chew it over. I don't know how long it takes a person to figure out whether you're worth at least as much as the guy friends who change plans all the time .. the ones that schedule their times with him because of the constraints of their own girlfriends .. and why I'm not invited, still. I know he cares about me, I really do. But you know I care for a lot of people I'm not DATING, and perhaps like you said he's just not MY guy. I just don't know. Time will tell and all that crap. Blah, blah, blah (using your Monday morning material).

I am going to get out of here in a bit, I took a very short lunch today and decided I don't have to stay here and play on the computer when I can go home and play at my house. I can promise you, I will not answer the phone if he calls me after 8 or so. And he can just worry his little tush off about it ~ I think it's about time he show some respect. I'm not getting paid for it so for cryin out loud he could at least be respectful.

That sounds bitter, doesn't it. I'm not really that bitter, but it's really that vinegar thing and the anger I feel. Okay so I'm bitter LOL ... but so what. Not like I'm going to go postal or anything, or cry or break anything -- not feeling that way at all.

I do hope you guys have fun tomorrow, and I hope you have a great weekend. I'm thinking of you and thank you for all your words of support and love. I love you, too :)

Talk Monday!

Thursday, October 20, 2005

"It's almost Friday!!!!" Message Thread

Sent: Wed 10/20/05 11:18 AM
From: LKK
Subject: It’s almost Friday!!!!

So...... I'm anxious to hear how it went for you last night....

I ended up wearing something different today than what I showed you. I have this really funky white top (that my dad got me for Christmas) with the head of a Las Vegas Showgirl in shades of grey (except for her hot pink lips) on the front, sleeves and back of the shirt. It sort of has those bell sleeves at the cuffs. Then I have this black, above the knee (but demurely) Kenneth Cole skirt on that has a little slit in the front. I have shiny black boots on of course (Aerosoles, so they are comfortable as hell) and underneath.... Well, let's just say that I do not know how our female predecessors in the 30's, 40's and 50's dealt with garters and stockings every day. Gooooood lord!

So that's the wardrobe, cause I know you'd be wanting such a detail. :-)


I was reading my latest "Buddha" book called, "If the Buddha Got Stuck," and I sooooo thought of you (and me too) and all that your sponsor has left you to think about and work on. What I read particularly resonated with what you're struggling with. If you're interested, I can (at some future date, I don't have the book with me today), send you an excerpt. But only if you're interested. Some stuff doesn't speak to you and I respect that. I think I can relate the thoughts in the book as my "higher power." :-)

Anyway.... Back to the original program... How did it go for you yesterday with G.?


Sent: Wed 10/20/05 2:06 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: It’s almost Friday!!!!

After a few mind changes (mostly on my part) we went out for sushi up on Queen Anne to my newest favorite place. Dinner was fine, nothing really all that special. I got this feeling he was uncomfortable there, I don't know why. I didn't ask him because it's not about him, right (eye roll). He made an angel food cake and brought over half of it for me, we stopped and got raspberries and I made a little fruit garnish for it, and we had some after we got back to my place. He put together (mostly) a new CD rack thingey I bought so I can FINALLY after years and years be satisfied with a rack that isn't ugly that holds all my CD's. I can't wait to get them all put away tonight. G. didn't stay long after that -- said he was tired -- so he left around 10:30 I think. He was nice in his usual, nice way. Not a lot of chemistry feelings or any real closeness. He left and I kinda said "nuff of that" and today I put my Yahoo personal back up. That should tell you how I feel.

He's a nice man, I wish we had more in common or at least more of a feeling of WANTING to have more in common. He again last night brought up big happenings at the bars he goes to and that he has a lot of studying to do this weekend, and I just figure we just don't "gel". I am not sure how to say whatever it is I think I should say to him, and I'll probably just leave it alone for awhile, but I know Yahoo will tell him I'm up and running before too long, so he's going to know. I can't decide if I want to say anything about it or not. Now, mind you, he's had his ad up this entire time. Never mind he's a guy and probably not getting that much email. I'm not responsible for his side of the street. All I know is, I feel like I am always waiting around for time to spend with him, and he's going out with his guy friends and doing his thing. Today I'm sick of that. It's been almost 2 months since we met, and if he wants to just hang out and do stuff once in awhile then so be it. I wanted to find someone who was looking for me, too, and I don't think he's looking.

I think tonight after I get all my CD's into their new home I'm going to start reading Greg's book. I haven't yet but actually really looking forward to it.

AND I am going to think about you and be glad you're going out, glad you'll be laughing and having a good time. I think that's exactly what you need and without being jealous, I'm happy for you :)

Wednesday, October 19, 2005

"Fwd: So what is wrong with these costumes?" Message Thread

Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:51:18
To: E.
From: L.
Subject: Fwd: So what is wrong with these costumes?

Howudoin' Hot Stuff?

Hope you're doing well!

A girlfriend sent me these pics at work, and I thought you'd get a kick out of them. :-)

Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow.

Think about me...

L.


Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:41:08
To: L.
From: E.
Subject: Re: Fwd: So what is wrong with these costumes?


Theses are so funny!

I just got up, and drinking my first cup of coffee.

I hope your having a great day.

bye

"So how's the day?" Message Thread

Sent: Tue 10/18/05 2:40 PM
From: LS
Subject: So how's the day?

I know the answer I think, but wanted to ask you anyway how your day is going :D


Sent: Mon 10/18/2005 3:04 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: So how's the day?

Hey there. It's going just great, thanks for asking. I'm just in a way better mood today than yesterday. Nothing else is new since I talked with you last night - so no extraordinary reason to feel good. I just do. :-)

How's it going on your end?


Sent: Tue 10/19/05 9:08 AM
From: LS
Subject: RE: So how's the day?

Sorry I didn't get this before I left last night -- thanks for your voicemails, those were fun to listen to :) I'm glad you're in a good place. I met with my sponsor & then went to a meeting afterwards, and home to watch some tv and bed. I think G. & I are going to dinner tonight, I'd mentioned it this weekend and I think he forgot so, I said it again this morning and he said he thought we could do that. Of course my sensitive little girl wanted him to be exuberant about it and say something like "I can't wait to see you!" but, that's not him :)

My sponsor was a little bit tough on me last night about my insecurities with G. and how I'm not focusing any of the work we've done on those shortcomings. She mentioned that it sounded like I was the problem (she does all this in a pretty nice way, I know she loves me n'all that but I hear the message loud & clear) and that I should focus not so much on what he's doing but what I'm doing. Supposed to ask myself if I'm being selfish or self-seeking (and really, with him, when am I not?) and pause, take a breath and ask my Higher Power for guidance. Gonna be a tough road to hoe. I'd rather do my not-so-fair behavior that I've known my whole life ;-)

Anyway, thanks again for thinking of me & calling to keep me in the loop.
I'm SO glad you're doin' well! That just makes me very happy :)


Sent: Tue 10/19/05 11:18 AM
From: LKK
Subject: RE: So how's the day?

Wow, sounds like your sponsor and my therapist ought to get together. :-)

You and I are both working on some similar issues. I think it's very cool that she will call you on your "stuff" however gently. The message is obviously coming across and is being received. It's not something you didn't already know, but I think the more people who hold you to healthy approaches for yourself, the more it will stay with you. Try to tap into that competitive nature of yours. Take care of yourself better than anyone else can. :-) And then you win!

Well, then all of us who care about you will win because we will be ecstatic for you!

LD, my counselor, asked me to identify how old I am when I get all anxious and unglued, and what is it that I need at that moment that will bring me down off the ceiling. I think that I'm about five years old, and the feeling is lke waiting for Christmas morning to come. I used to love the holidays so much that I couldn't sleep the night before Christmas, and that night felt like it would NEVER end. That's what happens to me when I get all anxious like I did Sunday and Monday. I just feel like it will never end. What I decided I need to help me with that is to connect back to the world. You helped me Monday by connecting and talking. So I'm sending a big thank you your way.

She asked how I brought myself down on Sunday and here's the reason why I decided it's a sense of connection that I'm seeking when I'm all strung out. I got down on the floor and played with my kitties. They always come running, even if they're in a dead sleep, when I am down on the floor. Not only that, but C. did the most unusual thing for herself, she grabbed a toy that's she's never shown a previous interest in, and just started dashing around with it in her mouth, batting it around and chasing it if I dragged it. That really pulled me out of whatever spiral I was stuck in (for at least a little while) and distracted me with its simple joy. C. acting like a kitten.
So I'm supposed to take C. with me (spiritually) to give to the five year old to play with when she starts to freak out about whatever. This is a little swishy for me, but I'll give it a try.

I'm looking forward to seeing that comedian, Greg Giraldo, with E. tomorrow. The guy is hilarious and I just know I'm going to embarrass myself with my snorting. :-) I'm going to wear my new dress (see attached file -- hopefully it comes through) because I'll feel sexy and I like dressing up for E. because he notices and compliments me. It'll just be fabulous to laugh.

So how are you feeling about all this stuff your sponsor has you thinking on?


Sent: Tue 10/19/05 2:30 PM
From: LS
Subject: RE: So how's the day?

First of all, the dress pic came thru and it looks great!Is yours that color? I think green and red hair go fabulous together.

I've got a hair appt on Sat and I am DYING to get my dark hair back! Mine has lightened up a lot and it's uneven and I hate it.

All the stuff my sponsor said seemed pretty straight from the heart and true. Not all of it was nice to hear of course, cuz I want someone to agree with me that it's G.'s fault when I feel bad (even though I know he's not responsible for that). I think overall I understand that it's ME that has the issues, ME that wants things to be different and ME that is trying to control how this relationship goes. That being said I don't have hardly a clue as to how to go about changing my behavior. That's where the God thing comes in, and I'm supposed to work on that. Humility is the key (insert eye-roll face here).

I feel kinda snippy today and I'm not really sure why. Just been that way all morning. I think I'm very tired and need some protein and all I really want is a diet coke, but we don't have a pop machine here or I'd be getting one.

I guess I'll go home, take care of T-dog, go get G., bring him back over to Bellevue, show him my work and take him to dinner, like we said (or at least what I thought we discussed but apparently I was the only one in that conversation) and see what we see. I bought a new CD rack thingey that needs to be put together and he said he'd do it for me so I am hoping he means tonight because I REALLY want to get all my CD's put into one damn place and be able to see what I have. I've been keeping my CD's in boxes for so long it's not even funny, and I want to get them onto my Ipod but how can I when I don't even know what I have?!?!?

See, snippy. I don't even have a reason or a focus!I'd venture to say, too many feelings discussed yesterday made me feel like crap about myself and so today I've internalized it and feel mean. That's the best self-psych work I can do. Not to mention I have a little headache and I want diet coke. I know, I already said that but I'm saying it again ...

I'm gonna go try to do a little bit of work today I think and see how that goes ..
Honestly I just need a nice warm fuzzy cuddle up nap. I think that would be a miracle cure for me :)

Monday, October 17, 2005

"Monday, Monday" Message Thread

Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 11:04 AM
From: LKK
Subject: Monday, Monday

Hey, you!

Happy Monday and all that rot. Turn that frown upside down. Smile, you never know who might be falling in love with you...

Blah blah blah blah blah

How was the rest of your weekend? Did you do anything fun?


Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 3:44 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Monday, Monday

You crack me up LOL
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH LOLOLOL ... I'm gonna run around saying that for a few hours now I think LOL ...

oh and "all that rot" as well ... :)
I suspect you had an SNS weekend? Mine was wrought with discussion and light argument, to the point that Sat night I was extremely sure G. was breaking up with ME .. and then Sunday we had a very pleasant morning together (didn't spend the night before together but he made me chocolate chip pancakes at his place Sun) and then did our own thing for the afternoon. He called me around 8:30 to tell me he was gonna make cookies and did I want some - cuz he would bring them over - or, did I maybe want to come over and help him. I chose the latter, and we had fun. It was easy and light, no remnant hard feelings or weird tones in voices to deal with. He made a totally valiant attempt at seducing me afterwards, which I really didn't expect after the deep dark conversations from the day before .. and he added some effort and tenderness to his repertoire and I was so touched by it I almost cried. He asked me if I wanted to spend the night even, on a school night ... but I didn't. He said we could talk about making plans for it next weekend, and that was nice to hear. I'm honestly not sure what will happen, but at least I feel good in the fact that I'm working hard at being patient and adult about things right now. I am hating the feelings like nobody's business, but I'm trying to do the BLAH BLAH BLAH thing as much as I can right now ;-) ... God knows I need the positivity.

So tell me, little miss .. what's happening with you?


Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 4:14 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: Monday, Monday

Well, well, well. It looks like our tables have turned and it's your turn to operate from a "better place" however temporarily. LOL I am so glad to hear about your weekend. See, from my external, objective view, it sounds like a beautiful weekend. Seriously.

My weekend wasn't all that hot. Saturday I didn't hear from the man getting toward 1:00 or so, when we were supposedly getting together to see a movie and then have me spend the night. That's not totally a big deal because he was supposed to be working that side job Saturday morning. So I do the research on movie times and call him around 1:45 expecting to leave a message. Well, he's home.
Grrr.

He didn't work that morning.

Grrrr.

And he didn't call.

Grrrr.

We do the whole dance about what are we going to do, blah blah blah. Who's going to go to who's place. I come up with a couple of different scenarios and he finally asks me which one is the one I want to do. When I say it's the one where I grab some grub for him to grill, maybe grab a movie and we can stay in at his place and stay over night. Well, he isn't feeling like having me stay over. Sad voice response, he detects it. Uncomfortable discussion and decision is that he will come up to my place (since I wasn't staying over, he could come to me!), we will play tennis, grab some pizza and watch the baseball game, then he'll go home. All of which happened.

It actually was a great afternoon and evening. I had a blast playing tennis and we ate and snuggled and such and such. The cuddling afterward was excellent and drawn out as we both fell asleep. I felt pretty good saying good bye and that was that.

So the next morning I decide that it's time to actually take my Hot or Not profile down, since I was getting tired of getting e-mails about who wants to meet me and also stringing along nice people who might or might not pan out -- but I didn't really have the heart to find out. I decided to commit to my decision to get to know E. and only E.. So before I deactivated, I sent E. a flower (one of the cutesy things you can do for a price) and I sent him a tulip. Because all he would get was an e-mail from the site telling him someone sent him a flower, I followed up with an e-mail (through the Hot or Not service) that I sent him a tulip because I love it when he presses his two lips to mine. Sick. Then I deactivated (well, after e-mailing my boys to tell them I'm getting to know someone).

Then I started my panic.

Well, what happens when you deactivate is that when/if E. goes to respond to my e-mail he will find that he is unable to rspond because one of the following could be true: I deleted his match. I am editing my profile. I am no longer accepting messages. And something else I can't remember. But then he has no way of knowing which it is unless he checks his double-match list. If he does that, he will see a message next to my name which says I am no longer accepting messages.

Well, being the semi-stalker that I can be, I checked to see if he logged on after I sent the flower and message to him. He did. No response though. (He, obviously, has my outside e-mail address, so he doesn't have to rely on the Hot or Not service to write to me).

Anxiety turned up to fever pitch.

I suffered through the rest of my day. Watching some of my TiVo, shopping on line (I am now broker than broke) and then worked out for almost 2 hours). I watched the Seahawks and the Chicago White Sox/Angels baseball games simultaneously. Waited until the Sox had won their way into the World Series (remember, E. is from Chicago) and then called him up (waited actually 20 minutes or so to do that, in case his mom called him like she had before when they won their first playoff series). No answer. Left a voice mail for him celebrating the win and also asking him how his real estate showing with his client C. went -- and to call me about it so I could hear how it went. This was about 8:45.

No call.

One more stalker check onto the Hot or Not website showed that he logged in at 10:00 or so.

No response.

No e-mail this morning.

No call at lunch.

Nothing.

I even dreamt about this.

While the brain is rationalizing that we've gone a day or two before without communicating, this of course is trumped by my lame-ass move to commit to him. Rational thoughts say that if he freaks out about this without calling, then so be it. He wasn't the one for me. There'll be another train coming through the station.

But dammit, I want to kick this abandonment gremlin off my back.
So that's where I'm sitting, and it ain't pretty.
Okay, I'm going to eat my lunch now.
Thanks for reading. And any kind words you may have to send my way will be more than appreciated.

God Bless G. for coming through with cookies. He's a good man. :-)


Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 4:46 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Monday, Monday

Wow that really was tough to read. I am SO sorry you've been beating yourself up like this. I know how much it hurts and how quickly wildfire spreads .. and I could tell you a million times how "from the heart" sorry I am and it wouldn't make much difference - but know that I am sending you a very gigantic hug.

I guess in the manner of kind comments I would have to include a big, heavy sigh and both my hands over my face as I say "OH NO!!" and shake my head from side to side.

I think your best bet is to walk away for 3 days. I think at 2 days he will have cooled down from whatever is putting his panties in a bunch and 1 extra just in case. No calls, no emails. Can you do that? I think Dear Heart, that in trying to lighten the mood you are effectively smothering him - and it would seem that he's not up for that right now. I don't know why he didn't want to spend the night with you, nor why after saying so you two had such an intimate exchange, but I think you need to give him some breathing room so that he can let his own SNS recuperate, whatever it's being caused by.

Let me say that nothing you did created this SNS and it sounds like he's got something weird going on within his own walls -- you are allowed to express disappointment and allowed to show affection and be sweet when you want to be. Remember -- you are NOT responsible for his feelings, and you have not done anything wrong. It's so bad when I tell you this stuff because I do it with total love and all good intentions, but I know too that if it were me I'd have a hell of a time doing it -- and I don't like that whole "do what I say, not what I do" mentality. So accept my apologies if this sounds like the pot calling the kettle black -- but it is, so that would explain the familiarity.

Give him some more space, LKK, and try your damnedest to just let it go. Try not to get defensive and angry and above all else don't take any of it personally. I'd say go work out but I know you'll be doing that anyway .. so maybe you could Kung Pao Squid it tonight since you didn't get to on Friday and give yourself an opportunity to feel the crap but at least have some comfort food too. Read on the couch with some nice music and candles .. that seems to do a lot more for me than watching TV on the relaxing front (I realized that this weekend because I did more than my fair share of it) and TV always has some kind of guy-girl thing going on that makes me think of exactly that which I'm trying to escape.

Does any of that make sense or help you at all?I sure hope so .. I know you're bristling and wishing you hadn't sent the tulip to him, but know that it was a very sweet gesture and that there was nothing wrong with it. You just got done telling me that I have to be the real ME with G. .. so don't beat yourself up for being the real you with E.. I love you and I'm sorry for your pain!

Sunday, October 16, 2005

Subject: Hey, Cutie

Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:03:07
To: E.
From: L.

I sent you the tulip because I love it when you put your two lips against mine. ;-)

Hope you're having a great day.

Think about me, 'cause I'm thinkin' on you...

L.

Friday, October 14, 2005

"TGIF !!" Message Thread

Sent: Fri 10/14/2005 8:26 AM
From: LS
Subject: TGIF !!

Good morning,

Just a quick note to say, again, thanks for the support and the love - and I loved the little bouquet! You're just too good to me :)

G. & I talked more last night and after stewing in my house for a few hours I primped and went over there without an invitation. I called from the street and asked if I could come in, of course, but he didn't know I was gonna do that. I told him I was sorry for having made him feel bad the night before but that I wasn't sorry about what I said. I made an effort to be calm and make lots of eye contact and touch him when I could, so that he would maybe know I wasn't mad at him. We watched the end of The Apprentice (mind you he was supposed to be studying which was why I couldn't come over to begin with, and he wasn't studying) and then talked a little bit more and had sex on the couch. Not quite intimate but after talking to my friend A. this week about how I feel about sex on the couch (which is like sex in the car if you ask me) she gave me this funny look and told me she didn't realize I was so structured LOL and since it was HER that said it, I figured I thought I'd better re-think that whole thing and make some effort at being more spontaneous. I guess if HE doesn't care what happens to his couch then I guess I don't have to care either ... but I just think it's kinda "ewwwe". How many people has he done that with on that couch??? Anyway, that's just me.

I left just before 11. I told him as I was putting my clothes back on that I wanted to petition this week for a night next weekend of my own, where we actually do something together and then spend the night together, and that I want that every weekend - at least one night where we do that together. He seemed to be chewing on that one but after all my thinking last night I thought I might as well jump in now while everything is kinda mixed up and say exactly what I want. He didn't call me this morning on his way to school (before yesterday, he did EVERY day) so at 7:30 I called him to say Good Morning, since I think he's testing me and I figure I can play this silly game for awhile. He's got a test today and he didn't study much, and he's pretty stressed out about it .. and that's entirely his own doing. I tried not to say much about it but if he is up here for school (which he sarcastically pressed upon me the night before when we were talking) then he should start doing some studying instead of hanging out with 20-something year olds, some of which can't even get into bars yet ...

Anyway, I think he's amazing in so many ways, and human in others .. I don't know that he's my soul mate by any stretch but I hardly know what that means. We have some "issues" as do all couples, and if he'd give a little my way I'd be willing to give some his way. We'll just have to see what happens. If nothing else, I feel content (enough) knowing that he is invested enough into it to feel bad when we don't get along, and that he's willing to try to talk to me about it instead of just throwing up his hands and saying something glib to get out of it.

I feel good enough today to work thru it instead of letting it get me down.
That's about all I got to say about it right now.

I sure do hope YOU, little missy, had a superb time in Kent visiting last night, and I am looking forward a LOT to tonight! I have the address and I'll figure it out from my place. We can discuss it a little bit later today & finalize "the deal" :)

Hope your wonder-friday has started off on a good note!

Talk soon :)

L


Sent: Fri 10/14/2005 2:00 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: TGIF !!

Hey there!

Thanks for that great update. I'm glad to hear you guys are still talking about important stuff and it sounds like you did alot of thinking about this. I'm sorry that I haven't had time to get back to you til now, and this is going to be short, but I'm counting on full disclosure (well, whatever you'd like to share LOL) tonight.

Wow, I just checked out the website for when this event starts tonight and I didn't realize it started at 6:30! Crap, I'm going to have to get out of here early if I'm going to get to your house in time to get to this place. I'll try to leave at 5:15, hopefully that's enough time.

I'll tell you about my night with E. when we get together. It was good, just so you don't start to worry that there's anything to talk about. lol

Okay, sorry to be so short, I'm swamperoonies. See you tonight! :-)


Sent: Fri 10/14/2005 2:50 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: TGIF !!

Wow I swear it said from 7-8:30 too .. huh ..
yeah your Social Club announcement thingey says it's from 7-8:30.
Well I'll be ready for you anytime after 6 and we can get going whenever you get there. If we're late or early it's all good as long as we get a book :)

I am not entirely sure I want to go visit S. tonight. I don't have any great reason, and maybe I might change my mind later, but I feel really
wiped out emotionally and I don't know how late I'm going to have my act together to be of
any good to anyone besides T-dog. If you are hot to trot and go out there, I might be swayed by your beautiful smile ;-) but we can talk about it tonight.

Work hard little girl!I'll see you in a little while!

Thursday, October 13, 2005

"Hiya" Message Thread

Sent: Thu 10/13/2005 1:58 PM
From: LS
Subject Hiya

Hey girl,

Just a shout out .. hope you're bizzy bizzy and nothing else?

Did you have a visitor last night? Thinking about you!

L


Sent: Thu 10/13/2005 3:28 PM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: Hiya

Hey there,

Sorry for the loud silence. :-)

I was out sick yesterday. I did a very bad cold-med combo and on the way into work got deathly ill. We're talking throw up sick, so I turned around and literally passed out for 4 hours once I got home. It was a pretty much lay around all day and sleep yesterday. Then today, I've been swamped with work stuff and some volunteer work for the Walk Across Washington. Issaquah had it's section of the walk today, and I helped out for most of the day. I'm just back in the office now.

No, E. didn't come over last night. He's ended up having to work at a job where he meets the guys at 5:00 a.m. and that's kind of obnoxious hours when you factor in his cold. I'm going to drive over there tonight after work because a girl's gotta do what a girl's do to get herself a little sumpin' sumpin'. lol Don't worry though, he's gravely aware of how far the pendulum has shifted on the driving side. But, hey, he's making me dinner. I can't squawk too loud, and I'm not really interested in squawking just yet anyway. I'm not staying over though -- that WOULD inspire some squawking. Besides, I have to come up with some kind of work appropriate, event appropriate outfit for tomorrow night.

Oh, and I never got back to you on the visiting S. idea. Of course I'm always glad to see S., so if you're up for that, we can visit him afterward. I think you're right in that he works at Sport on Fridays. I haven't been there yet, but I've heard it's fun.

Okay, back to the grind. Why don't you let me in on your doin's if you have some time. :-)


Sent: Thu 10/13/2005 3:33 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Hiya

I am so sorry to hear about your med combo ... dang girl. I'm glad you got it out of you!

Bad to hear you were so pukey though. I do hate puking. Maybe it was all good that E. couldn't come over so you could mend .. tonight will be fun then, even if you are driving again.
You're right, a gal's gotta do what a gal's gotta do.

G. & I have started having some real talks and really, I don't think I can emotionally deal with typing it all out so I will have to put you on the back burner until tomorrow night and tell you about it. The basic bottom line is, what he wants to do with his spare time just doesn't cut it for me. I am not anyone's filler girl, not even G.'s. I am not entirely sure I'm right about all of this but I am so dang tired of feeling bad about being a non-drinker where he's concerned. I shouldn't have to feel that way - I didn't get sober to feel bad. I didn't tell him I wanted to break up or mention any drastic measures, but the honest words have been said and when I asked him how he thought my side & his side were going to mesh (on the subject of going out to bars all the time) he said he didn't know, that he thought we were still working that one out. That wasn't no good sign to me. He's got to be his person and I have to respect that ~ and I also need to be my own person and he's got to respect THAT. Not just on the designated "get together" nights but in general. I'll tell you tomorrow if you wanna hear it all. Pretty exhausting stuff.

I am still glad to hear you & E. are plugging along :)
That's great to hear & I'm glad you're enjoying it. That's how it should be, I know.

Sorry to be curt but I've been maybe too emotional today and I feel kinda messed up. I'm leaving at 4 to go do Post Office BS and go home. K. is coming over and we're going to commiserate and have a little happy hour of our own tonight before she has to go visit her new man, then I am gonna stay home and do some reading and chilling. G. told me he has to study for a test they have every Friday so we can't do Survivor together anymore. I am contemplating a meeting but dunno if the couch will release my butt or not :) I'll see how it goes.

Tomorrow night, are you gonna come to my place first? We haven't really talked about "the plan" yet. I guess I thought you would but you might not wanna do that, I dunno. I'm glad we are going, I can't wait to see this guy. I bet it will be packed to the rafters.

I'll talk to you tomorrow, thanks for getting back to me & filling me in. Have a great time tonight and get some for me too :)

"Feeling like some company?" Message Thread

Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:36:21
To: E.
From: L.
Subject: Feeling like some company?

Hey there,

You're probably sound asleep and snoring (yes you do, don't deny it!) ;-) Hopefully you're dreaming about me.

Me, on the other hand, am wide awake from all the napping I did today. I figure taking care of a little "personal business" in a few minutes will probably relax me enough to drift off. And yes, I'll be thinking of you as I pleasure myself.

My question for you is if you would like me to stop by for a little while tomorrow evening? Let me know...

Have a great day. Hope you figure out what to do about getting your tools...

kisses


Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:51:24
To: L.
From: E.
Subject: Re: Feeling like some company?


Tomorrow meaning tonight?

Yup, I would love to see you.

I'll make you happy! I will tie you up to the bed and have my way with you. If that sound like fun? It does to me, and my cock is hard thinking about it.

I'll be here.

Have a great day! Do you know how to salsa dance?

kisses

Wednesday, October 12, 2005

"Have a good day..." Message Thread

Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:29:52
To: E.
From: L.
Subject: Have a good day...

Hey sweet thang, hope you're feeling better, and that your day today goes better than Tuesday.

I've been thinking about you. Looking forward to seeing you. And putting my hands on you. And my lips....

Ooh, such naughty thoughts.


Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:44:28
To: L.
From: E.
Subject: Re: Have a good day...


Get this, I am working in Tacoma. I have to be there by 5 and the guys are getting wet. The job is on the beach. I don't think that sounds good for me. O yeah its 3:40am

have a great day and I will call you when I get home 1-2pm.

bye

Tuesday, October 11, 2005

"Tuesday, another day" Message Thread

Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 8:16 AM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Tuesday, another day

Reading this first thing in the morning was so totally perfect to get my brain screwed in right.
At least for a few minutes anyway LOL ... I feel so very lucky to have you as a friend, to have you care so much -- enough to send me a big long email to help steady me and tell me you care. I can't thank you enough. I know, I do it for you too .. but when you're the receiver, it just feels like so much more of a gift than when you're the giver .. what's that about ??? :) Anyway, thank you so, so much.

I hear ya on the fibbing & point taken. It's stupid and childish, and non-sensical. Who the hell cares what I choose to do with my spare time? I'm sure either way he wouldn't, because it's just not in his makeup to be co-dependent like I am. I'm not beating myself up about this, but I have to say that I am that -- co-dependent -- and I feel like I need him to fill my holes with the kind of attention and affection that I want, not the kind he wants to give me. Selfish, self-centered thinking. We actually talked about that last night at my Monday meeting and it was so fitting to hear it out loud .. didn't even have anything to do with me as I didn't even speak up, but it was there and I heard it. I know it's true, but I just don't know what to DO with it. That's my dilemma. Like you were saying about working out, sleeping, movie, other friends, etc. You've told me that before -- once you told me to get a glass of water to get my mind off whatever is bothering me LOL and sometimes when I have a glass and I'm pouring water into it I think of you ;)

He asked me last night if I'd talked to you and how your weekend went, and I told him you'd sent me a super awesome email and that you sounded great. He wanted to know all about it, and I just couldn't really talk about it because it was kinda too intimate, too close to home on the things that were going on with me (in the opposite direction, obviously) and I didn't want to talk to him about that and start crying or some such thing. He's been pretty attentive the last couple days, I think his ESP is picking up my angst in a big sort of way ... but he's also been keenly sarcastic in a joking sort of way, and it has not been my mood so I've had troubles with it.

He's making me dinner tonight, I'm supposed to go over around 6:30-ish and we will go down to the Locks if it's not raining and take a little walk before we eat. He made something for dessert last night .. won't tell me what, but I'm sure if he planned it the day before it will be something very very yummy. Dinner will be good too, no matter what it is. He's a very good cook, it's not like Canlis or anything but whatever he makes is done well and tastes amazing. When I was dating J., I used to let him put me in a corner where I felt less-than him - like I wasn't good enough for him, even though of course there were times I knew better. I feel somewhat the same way about G., in a less threatening sort of way -- but he's got friends he cares about, he's close to his family, he's smart and funny and he seems so independent, and he can cook!! He's got a lot of things I wish I had. I have good friends too so that's not so much the part I'm talking about .. but the rest, it just overwhelms me sometimes. I get panicky and desperate-feeling, like I want so much to be good enough to keep him so I can sneak my way in and absorb some of his strength. When he shuts me down (my perception) I feel like a little child and I don't know how to respond.

I will take a look at that website link you sent about the Love Addicts thing. The funny thing about 12-step programs, after you've been in one awhile you can apply the principles to just about any less-than-where-you-want-it-to-be thing you've got in your life. I know my insecurities are what drive me to obsess about being loved and needing more from a guy than he can give me - realistically, no matter what kind of man G. was, it wouldn't be enough when I've got the NEEDY thing going on. That hole just goes down past China, there's not bottom to hit. I know this, and I have to work hard to compensate for it. My way is usually to pull back and get quieter because I get afraid of what I might say ... and boy does G. pick up on that. He doesn't like it at all when I get quiet, and starts asking me what's wrong -- which in turn makes me MORE stressed LOL

You know, he told me this weekend his younger brother (the one with the drinking & drug problem) was going ring shopping with their mom for his girlfriend. They are moving in together at the end of the month after dating for THREE years. They met in a treatment center LOL and both of them, of course, are back to using again. I don't know how much or whatever but, I know that neither of them stayed clean. Last night he told me his bro found a ring and he's pretty excited about it (the brother is). He's having them mail it to G. up here (from Cali) to save on the sales tax (cheap bastard) and also so that G. can see it and tell his brother what he thinks, like that matters .. but I thought it was kinda nice that G.'s brother was trying to include him. Of course, telling me all this just brought to the forefront of my mind that I really in my heart wish to God that someone would feel that way about me, want me to be a permanent part of their life like that. I know marriage isn't necessarily "permanent" but the premise makes it start that way ... and I want to know how that feels. I also get very well that G. and I just met & I don't even know how I feel about him like that, but without a particular guy in my mind I just feel like I want someone to care about me that much.

Okay I've been typing for like 20 minutes! I am gonna go re-read your email and get my head back straight again (it's already off-kilter, go figure after my POOR ME rant) and then try to get some work done :)

I hope you are enjoying the morning, it looks like we might have at least a little bitta sunshine this morning anyway -- and hopefully some clearing today. I love the rain, but it's so good for somber, and I just don't want to feel that way today.

Cheers my friend! :)

Talk to you soon & thank you again for being such a great support for me!


Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 11:26 AM
From: LKK
Subject: Re: Tuesday, another day


Hey there, Happy Tuesday!

And it is happy for me with the gorrrrrrrgeous weather. Yummy! I'd like it to stay sunny as long as possible to keep me away from my serotonin snacking! At night I have sooooo been craving sweets and carbs. In fact, Sunday night I scrounged out these chocolate bunnies I have from Easter and spread them with crunchy peanut butter. Doh! Luckily they were small (like an inch long) and I was able to stop myself at three (miracle of all miracles), but STILL. This is not a good sign. It's getting exceedingly difficult to bypass the cake mix aisle.... Especially when QFC has them 10 for 10 dollars. Criminy!

So my thinking is that if the weather stays nice, I won't be comfort-seeking eating. Well, that's my theory anyway.

I'm really glad my ramblings yesterday were able to help in some way. I really feel your pain. That's why I know from whence I write. I actually visited that website that I sent to you. They have a 40 questions to ask yourself to see if you are a love addict. I can definitely answer yes to many of those questions. So I can see why KD (my old counselor) was thinking that would be something I could benefit from checking out. I think that some of the work I am starting to do with LD (my current counselor) will attack some of the underlying issues that cause me to be an addict of love and romance.

I see so many parallels to the way you and I were raised and our momma issues. They may be different issues, but they result in the same obstacles that we struggle with today. I believe they are issues that my mom dealt with in her growing up and I KNOW that her mom (my grandmother) dealt with them while SHE was growing up. I think by the time it got to me the doo-doo was so firmly entrenched in my female family's behavior patterns that it was invisible to them. I don't know how that dynamic played out in your mother's history -- but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't there for her as well. Particularly coming from a Japanese culture. Not the most supportive or nurturing of strong, independent women.

Still, as Dr. DT said to me at my last appointment (she's the med doctor) -- it's nice of me to acknowledge that my mom had a hard row to hoe by having a baby at her age, but at the same time, it doesn't change the fact that I am hurting. I don't have to know the "how" of why I am the way I am, I just need to acknowledge it and heal. Of course, me being who I am, I NEED to know the how's and why's of things. I am so much more comfortable. Maybe because that allows me to focus on other people's needs (hey, they have an excuse, so maybe I just need to suck it up and not be so sensitive) -- instead of standing up for my own -- and believing that I deserve to have my needs met.

It's so much easier to worry about what G. or E. are thinking, feeling, etc. than to actually take the time to figure out how you or I am feeling. Because, if we discover that we're really just not into them, we might actually have to take action to get us out of the relationship (turning our backs on romance, intimacy, closeness -- even if there is something essentially lacking that is not meeting our needs). I don't want to lose my chance at love any more than you do -- you know that. At the same time, this isn't life or death here. Not really. We make it like that for ourselves. I'm just as guilty of it as you are. I get so focused on being the perfect girlfriend so that I can look back and say I did one relationship "right" that I lose alot of myself in the process.

You are doing that now. You are losing the ability to enjoy the moments you are being given with G. by being overwhelmed by the big picture. Where is it going? What does it mean? Why is he doing such and such? Why is he NOT doing such and such? Sound familiar? He's into you. He's really into you. Fears and all. I'm not saying this is a license to unload on him all the stuff that's running around in your head. That's for you and I or you and K. or A. or whomever you choose to confide in. It doesn't mean you're weak or broken or worth less or not as good as G. is.

You know, you can take what you respect in him, what you admire and wish you were, and turn it into action. That is why I like being with people who challenge me. Especially when it's not THEM who want me to change, but that, by my own choice, I choose to change my life or set goals or improve myself in some way. It's easy to get lazy (at least for me) and just slide by. But I really don't like myself or my life when I do that. It's okay for a while, but then I start to get antsy and dissatisfied and bitchy and get a negative attitude about life. This is like a new realization for me. An epiphany moment almost.

By doing what I consider "harsh" and staying really detached from E. and any potential outcome between the two of us, I have actually done some of the most healthy "relationship" stuff of my life. I've caught myself in the whole fantasy/expectation game (i.e. the Seahawks weekend, overnighter, breakfast, two days of spending every waking moment with each other). I was able to step back from it, talk with him about why I was disappointed, and now we both know about an important issue for me is. It's important for him (both from my perspective and from his own) that he sticks to his word. I'm keeping my eyes open to notice things about him that are REALLY about him and not the way I want to see him. So the guy I'm starting to like is the real guy, not the fantasy guy I have in my head of how he SHOULD be.

I want to be that important person you want to be too. And you know what? I'm starting to become that important person. Both for me and for him. I see that in our interactions and I feel that in the way I am writing to you. I'm not saying that I won't have moments (probably MANY moments) of scrambling around and trying to decode every word or action with you, LOL, but I hope at those times, to tap back into this feeling. Yeah, it's damn scary to think about what it would be like if I don't get to see him or whatever in the future, but I can't dwell on that. That will turn me into the Ambivalent Love Addict (check out that site, it's interesting -- because I think that that is the category I most fit into -- with my whole loving the crush more than acting on it) -- where I will start the freak-outs to drive him away so that I don't have to have the commitment and I can be alone which is what the martyr in me believes will be my fate anyway. That martyr just needs to take a hike!

So, what I'm telling you is, think about the dessert he made for you. Savor the dessert he made, the dinner he made. Laugh. Tease with him. Be in the moment. I can almost 100% assure you that there is no motive for him beyond that moment that you are there. He's not trying to show you up. He's trying to show off because he wants to impress YOU. He feels the need to impress you. What does that say to you? Well, it says to me that you are important to him. He is impressed by you and he has to win you with his wiles. :-) Be in that moment as much as you can.

I'm getting the distinct impression that the sarcasm gets extremely thick when you guys are pussyfooting around a "dangerous" topic. That is definitely a cop defense mechanism. It protects them by separating them from their surroundings with humor and puts their fear/discomfort on you. i.e. Misery loves company. When he goes to jump your bones, grab his wrists and push him down. Say, hold on big boy. I want my lesson and I want it now. And I have a lesson for you. Let's play teacher and student. You be the teacher and I'll be the naughty girl you held after school. ;-)

I love ya girl. Hang in there. You can do this. Just approach it with baby steps. And for crying out loud, if you have to pull an nun-move on him with the ruler, go for it! ;-)


Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 2:25 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Tuesday, another day


You crack me UP :)
Thank you for the insights and the suggestions, I will take them in and chew on them. It's hard for me to see he's making any effort to "impress" me per se when I feel like time would be worth more, but that's just because I want what I want WHEN I want it - not when he wants to give it to me. I gotta learn to stop that and appreciate the NOW. I don't do that so well -- and thank you for reminding me.

You sound solid as a rock, girlfriend. I am envious and proud of you at the same time :)
Good job you!


Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 3:15 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Tuesday, another day

It was the nun comment, wasn't it? ;-)


Sent: Tue 10/11/2005 3:59 PM
From: LS
Subject: Re: Tuesday, another day


Yeah that made me bust out a chortle ;)
good one LOL